Streamed reside on Sep 25, 2025
Guided Nondual Meditation by Michael Taft
I’m Michael Taft, and we’re going to do Deconstructing Your self tonight. That’s a one-hour guided meditation, as standard. I’ll simply say, in case you’re not used to sitting on the ground cross-legged for an hour, otherwise you by no means try this, and it simply appear looks as if a cool factor to do, you would possibly need to sit in a chair proper now, as a result of in case you’re not used to doing it, it may be very uncomfortable. And an hour is longer than chances are you’ll assume.
Aside from that, I’ll be speaking by way of the entire meditation, providing, suggesting stuff you are able to do together with your consciousness, and you’ll observe together with that—or not. , in case you don’t really feel like doing the meditation that I’m main, don’t do it. , it’s your thoughts. It’s your expertise. Do what works for you. And, on the finish, I’ll give some form of discuss, after which we are going to go this factor round and see in case you guys need to discuss your expertise, or have one thing to share, or if in case you have one thing in your thoughts that you simply need to ask me, or no matter. After which on the very finish, we are going to do a really transient silent meditation. As I all the time say, that’s the meditation chaser. Simply the entire night, proper?
[guided movement]
Within the Hindu sphere, it’s Navaratri, proper? The 9 nights of the goddess. So in honor of Navaratri and the assorted goddesses, the bija syllables we’ll do tonight are the 4 seed syllables of goddesses. So simply observe alongside, however we’ll do them so as, not one after the opposite. We’ll spend a while on the primary one, after which spend a while on the second. The bijas are: AEEM, HREEM, SHREEM, KREEM, KLEEM. Okay, it’s straightforward. Really, we’ll begin out with OM.
[chanting]
Good. So simply relaxation in pure presence outdoors the considering thoughts. Simply be current, and spot the afterglow of that bija syllable chanting. We invoked all of the knowledge goddesses in the course of the competition of the goddesses, so that you would possibly really feel a little bit additional cost there. That vitality may be very current, and let’s simply proceed on this place the place we now have put aside the considering thoughts completely. We’re not turning it off. We’re not making an attempt to cease it, or gradual it down, or velocity it up, or make it do that or that. We’re simply setting it apart and never partaking. So, there’s no battle there in any respect with the vitality of the thoughts. Simply not partaking.
If you end up partaking, simply calm down, and let it go, and are available again to only merely being current. There isn’t actually a method for being current. It’s simply what occurs once we’re not misplaced in thought, proper? Naturally feeling our physique, naturally listening to the sounds, seeing the sights of the room round us. Naturally current. And since consciousness like that, presence like that’s simply on, there’s not likely something to do. Simply keep uninvolved with considering. So let’s relaxation like that a little bit bit. Remaining uninvolved with thought. Simply resting within the pure spacious openness of awakeness itself.
And if—for no matter motive—that’s just a bit too unstructured for you, in case you want a little bit one thing extra to hold on to, you may simply discover the approaching and going of respiratory. We’re not focusing laborious on it, or making an attempt to seize onto it, or drill into it or something, however simply, whereas remaining current, discover that the breath wave is coming and going. The breath wave is rising and falling. So remaining totally uninvolved with thought, even when numerous ideas are occurring. Let’s simply relaxation like this for a short while collectively. Anytime you end up getting re-caught up with considering, simply set it again down and are available again to easily being current.
Okay, good. Now, I’m simply going to counsel a metaphor for sitting. That can assist us discover some issues about this pure presence and our personal easy being. So, to begin with, I’d such as you to sit down just like the sky. Keep in mind, we’re not being concerned with thought. So, you instantly go to how “Do I sit just like the sky? I’m going to attempt to be the sky. I’m imagining the sky. I’m going to do one thing to attempt to fake to be the sky, or like some Midsummer Evening’s Dream form of factor”—Don’t try this. Simply discover the openness and spaciousness of presence. That vastness and free high quality of presence. And it’s not likely one thing we’re taking a look at. It’s not like, oh, it’s over there. As I mentioned, sit just like the sky. Be the openness. Be the spaciousness. Be the huge boundlessness.
And in case you’re making an attempt laborious to be that proper now, simply drop that as a result of it’s already there. It’s just a few side of expertise that may be observed. There’s nothing to do. Our pure presence is tremendously open, boundless, free, unobstructed. You don’t need to do something to sit down just like the sky. You simply discover the skylike high quality of your personal presence. We’re not imagining or establishing—simply awake. Simply current.
Keep in mind, we’re remaining completely uninvolved with thought and simply setting that apart. Subsequent, I’d like to ask you to sit down like a mountain. Sit like a mountain. Noticing the soundness and groundedness and solidity of presence. Presence is tremendously steady. There’s additionally a form of magnificence and the Aristocracy in it, which we are able to see within the mountain as nicely. Our uncontrived, unconstructed, spontaneous, presence is elegant and noble. However the minute you attempt to make it like that, now it’s contrived. So sit like a mountain and spot that stability. This isn’t the soundness of phenomena. It’s the soundness of presence. Phenomena are unstable, however presence is steady.
Anytime you end up drifting off into considering, come again to presence. Once we’re getting concerned in thought, we’re getting wrapped up in a dream, and as an alternative, we simply need to keep proper right here, current, wakeful, sitting like a mountain, noticing that stability and groundedness, and even a form of the Aristocracy.
Good. Subsequent, I invite you to sit down like a mirror, or lets say, perhaps, the floor of a lake. Both one. I’ll name it a mirror. Sit like a mirror, completely uninvolved with thought, totally wakeful and current, completely reflecting all that happens. Not cracked or damaged or scratchy or light. Completely clear reflection of all expertise. Wakeful, huge open, very steady, very clear, uninvolved with thought. You’re not picturing a mirror or imagining a mirror. You’re simply noticing that each one expertise is completely mirrored like a mirror.
Not getting embroiled with the reflection, not making an attempt to vary it, not making an attempt to regulate it, not making an attempt to suppress it or amplify it. It’s simply completely reflecting all expertise. Remaining totally uninvolved with considering. Simply staying current to the spaciousness, to the soundness, to this excellent mirror-like reflection.
Good. Now, sit just like the solar within the sky, noticing the intense luminous high quality of presence—the glowing, shining, radiant high quality of presence. Expertise is vivid whether or not it’s visible or auditory—or any sense. All of the senses are vivid, clear, luminous, radiant, glowing. Discover that high quality. Once more, not as one thing you’re taking a look at, however as one thing you might be. Your presence is. This awake, boundless, presence may be very vivid, very clear, luminous, radiant. Be the radiance, the openness, the soundness, the right reflection. This luminosity is steady. It’s all the time awake. It’s all the time vivid. Even when it’s night time on Earth, the solar continues to be shining vivid.
Good. Remaining utterly uninvolved with thought. Sit like an ocean. Even when the floor of the ocean is wavy or ruffled, the deepness of the ocean may be very quiet, very peaceable, very relaxed, very nonetheless. It’s snug. It’s comfy, resisting nothing. Simply discover that high quality of peace and ease. Be that high quality of leisure and gentleness.
Good. Now, merely resting as presence, which is luminous and spacious and vivid and steady, mirror-like and restful. Discover there’s nothing to do. There’s no strategy to manufacture that. That simply is what it’s. We’re simply noticing that about it.
However now, up till now, we’ve been uninvolved with thought. And now simply discover that each one the thought that’s there’s like wind within the sky. So we now have this huge open nonetheless sky, however there’s wind now—and the wind simply strikes. The wind goes right here, the wind goes there. It adjustments course. It does no matter it does. And we’re simply awake and current with that motion with out making an attempt to seize on to the wind in any respect. We’re not making an attempt to cease the wind, or do one thing with the wind, or change the wind. We’re simply permitting it to only do its factor with out turning into concerned.
Wind simply blows within the sky and the sky will not be disturbed in any respect. Doesn’t trouble the sky in any respect. A steady, open, luminous, clear, vivid, relaxed, presence. There’s greater than sufficient room to permit the wind to maneuver right here and transfer there with none trouble in any respect. We don’t must make the winds of thought attempt to do something. We’re not making an attempt to make them nonetheless or targeted or cease or go—or do something. They only get to be no matter they’re, with out us partaking in any respect, with out us bothered in any respect. Large open, wakeful, naturally current, naturally vivid. Winds of thought simply blow round, not bothering something.
Good. Now, simply staying current with our personal luminous, open, clear, vivid, pure, presence. Let’s simply permit simply one in every of these seed syllables to return up. We’ll do SHREEM to finish right here. Remaining current, remaining clear. The winds of thought can come and go, however we’re not partaking. There’s simply the SHREEM manifesting from the openness.
[chanting]
Okay, excellent. Let’s finish that there.
Dharma Speak
So, you recognize, what are we doing in that meditation? As I mentioned, what we’re not doing is sitting there making an attempt to think about. , I’m gonna fake to be the ocean, or one thing, and right here’s the fish, and right here’s the whale sharks, and all—like some transatlantic vents or one thing. No, nothing like that, proper? That’s not what we’re doing. It’s that it’s suggestive of, for instance, the ocean, like I mentioned, of deep relaxation and peace. Deep, deep, deep, deep. ease and leisure. And also you, simply as an alternative of making an attempt to make your self relaxed or stretch or something like that, it’s easy. You simply take a look at the standard that’s already there. For instance, leisure, or if we’re meditating just like the solar, the standard of luminosity, proper? The standard of brightness and readability that’s already current in consciousness. So, we’re simply pointing at features of our pure thoughts, pointing at features of our already current being. You don’t need to make them up or think about them or form of gin it up and generate. It’s simply there to have a look at. Besides we’re not taking a look at it as a result of it’s not separate, proper? It’s not a factor over there—you simply be it, or discover it.
We form of fall right into a long-term behavior of imagining that we’re a factor over right here that appears at different issues over there. It’s a recurring stance. However the extra you do sure kinds of deconstructive meditation, the place it simply turns into apparent that that’s hallucination—that’s a form of imagining. I’m imagining that I’m a factor over right here taking a look at different issues over there, or listening to issues on the market, or no matter.
We’re all the time constructing that break up in our thoughts. It’s a behavior, nevertheless it’s not basically actual. That’s not really there. It’s simply creativeness. And so, it is perhaps laborious to let go of that behavior at first. And so, it’d look like you’re taking a look at these properties. So, the soundness like a mountain over there, or the luminosity just like the solar, is over there, or no matter. And perhaps you may nonetheless form of discover it, however finally you’ll see that it’s what’s wanting, so to talk. What’s wanting is steady. What’s wanting is vivid and clear. What’s wanting is spacious and open just like the sky. What’s wanting is relaxed just like the ocean. What’s wanting has this mirror-like high quality of excellent reflection, with out distortion, or marring, or breaking the picture.
And so, actually, what we’re doing there’s—not pretending to be something, not making an attempt to domesticate or construct up one thing—It’s simply noticing the properties of our personal pure presence. And due to this steady hallucination that I’m somebody over right here taking a look at issues over there and blah blah blah, we form of lose contact with these very primary properties of our personal being. We simply lose contact with it. It by no means goes away. It by no means disappears or in some way diminishes or no matter as a result of that’s what we’re.
So it may well’t go away. However what can occur is we form of get distracted from it. Particularly if we expect we’re wanting, our consideration loses focus a little bit bit, proper? And that huge open, wakeful, vivid, clear presence—we form of get misplaced in, you recognize, Minecraft or one thing. We’re simply busy with Minecraft, and we form of overlook this factor. After which, due to the best way there’s a break up between how we repair stuff on the planet, how we get stuff achieved, and the way we come again to our personal nature, proper?
Once we need to get stuff achieved, like today, if I need to get one thing achieved, I would get Gemini Deep Assume to inform me how one can do it. I need to construct this factor. Give me the step-by-step directions, or I’m going to go on YouTube, and watch any individual do it, and there’s a how-to, and that you simply go from right here to there, and there’s directions. And so, very, very, naturally—for completely affordable causes—once we need to come again to pure presence, we go, “how can we do it, what are the steps I’m going to have a look at? I’m going to observe the steps, and also you see you are able to do it.” That’s not mistaken. That’s not a mistake—Besides it doesn’t work, proper? It doesn’t really work, as a result of that’s like saying, “How do I get the solar to be vivid?”
Each doable factor you do is only a distraction from the solar being already vivid. How do I get the wind to blow? It simply does that as a result of the solar is vivid. It simply does that. Proper there. Something you attempt to do—it simply will get in the best way. Doesn’t imply we are able to’t do stuff, as a result of among the practices we do are about kind of calming down all of the distraction. For instance, one which was actually influential for me—I’m very very dangerous in any respect this, and it’s taken me a long time and a long time of banging my head uselessly towards a wall to form of get wherever—which is one motive I can educate it, as a result of people who find themselves good at it have a tough time educating it, as a result of they didn’t have a tough time doing it. However, from a long time of sucking at it, I can let you know all of the errors you can also make, and how one can keep away from them.
One of many issues you may take a look at, for instance, that’s useful, is: you may very fastidiously watch your self creating the phantasm of being separate. That’s one thing you may see occurring. It’s an creativeness that you simply carry up on a regular basis. I’m over right here. All these all you guys are over there, and I’m speaking to you, and taking a look at you, and it’s like a factor you’re doing in your head. However, you recognize, you are able to do methods to see that taking place reside. Usually, it’s simply occurring, and also you’re misplaced in it. However each occasionally, you may form of watch that taking place and also you go, “Oh, oh.”
So, there’s stuff to try this helps. However ultimately, all you’re doing is coming again to what you really are—and all the time are, and will by no means not be. And simply giving up on being misplaced. Or, even put extra clearly, pretending you’re completely misplaced. Imagining repeatedly making a story during which you’re misplaced and have to be discovered. All of that’s bullshit, proper? You’ll be able to by no means be misplaced from your self, proper? That’s a contradiction. It’s proper there.
And if you would like some steerage, if it feels such as you’ve nonetheless acquired to do one thing, or, “how do I discover the factor that’s by no means been misplaced?” , there’s the outdated metaphor. It’s such a conventional metaphor, nevertheless it’s an amazing one. It’s like, hey, there’s a snake in my room. How do I do away with the snake in my room? There’s a snake there. It’s harmful. It’s going to chew me. It’s toxic. I would like a machete. I would like a hook. I would like a cage. I would like, you recognize, one thing. Put the snake within the bottle in some way. And it seems the snake is a rope. It can’t damage you. There’s nothing that must be achieved. However persons are like, “However how do I do away with the rope?” It’s like, no, you’re achieved. It’s a rope. There’s nothing to do. However nonetheless, you recognize, in case you—as a result of I actually do on a regular basis—want a reminder. We want some—as a result of we’re so into the imagining of being misplaced, that it’s like we are able to’t discover the best way dwelling.
Sit just like the sky, as a result of our precise pure thoughts is spacious. Sit like a mountain, as a result of it’s steady. Sit just like the solar, as a result of it’s vivid and luminous, clear and sit just like the ocean, as a result of it’s peaceable, relaxed, deep, proper? These are simply pointers at what’s all the time there. Okay? After which, at first, we set the thoughts apart as a result of that’s all of the churning fantasy, proper?
However, in fact, that’s a part of it too. So finally we discover, okay, nicely, that’s similar to wind within the sky. It may do no matter it needs. Nevertheless it’s not ever really disturbing the sky. It’s not ever really blowing down the mountain, or in some way placing out the solar, or no matter. It’s simply innocent wind within the sky. Okay? So, it’s all pointing to what we already are. You don’t must make any of that up. You don’t must make any of it occur. It’s simply breadcrumbs again to your self, proper? Little ball, little very brief string within the very minor labyrinth of being misplaced from oneself a little bit bit.
Okay, that’s what I’ve to say about that.
Subsequent, we do the ritual the place we now have this speaking object. And simply two issues: We’re going reside to the Web, so know that something you say can be preserved ceaselessly, like a dinosaur fossil 100 million years from now. They’ll discover what you requested. So simply know that. After which, bear in mind to be conscious of speech, as a result of everyone seems to be a sangha right here. We simply meditated collectively. So let’s be conscious. So in case you simply need to discuss your expertise, or share a query—something like that—increase your hand.
Q&A
Q: Hello Michael. To start with, thanks. That that was a a really stunning meditation session, and I felt that the metaphors have been extraordinarily lucid for me, and that with every passing metaphor, I began seeing it much less as one thing that was as you mentioned, much less of one thing that I perceived and extra one thing that I embodied, one thing that’s inside me.
MT: Great.
Q: Yeah. There was one thing that you simply mentioned on the finish of the mountain, or in the direction of the top of the mountain metaphor, you mentioned, once we introduced consideration to the soundness of presence, you mentioned this isn’t the soundness of phenomena. That is the soundness of presence. And then you definately mentioned phenomena are unstable and presence is steady.
MT: Sure.
Q: That resonated with me, and I’m questioning in case you might develop on that. What makes phenomena unstable?
MT: Nicely, clearly, they arrive and go, proper? They alter, stuff arises, occurs for some time, goes away. Even whereas it’s occurring, it’s totally different now, totally different now, totally different now. So the very clear, apparent, expertise of any phenomena is that it’s impermanent—it adjustments rather a lot. We simply know that about stuff—even phenomena like folks come and go, are born and die, and so forth, and so forth. So every little thing does that.
Q: I believe it’s very straightforward—and I fall for this typically, to be fooled into reversing that, as a result of, you recognize, whenever you when you concentrate on it you—simply converse for myself, if I would like a way of stability, and even simply the phantasm of stability, there are specific phenomena which might appear dependable, and might appear steady. After which, on the identical time, presence can really feel ephemeral, proper? Presence can really feel tied to the environment and topic to the entire numerous vicissitudes of life.
MT: 100%.
Q: Moreover, at instances, it may be laborious to all the time concentrate on one’s presence. I don’t know, perhaps perhaps not.
MT: Is it?
Q: Perhaps it’s one thing you may get higher at, however..
MT: Are you current proper now?
Q: I do really feel current proper now. Sure. Yeah. Okay, however I assume I used to be questioning what whenever you don’t really feel your presence, however you continue to want a way of stability, is there something that you simply flip to?
MT: Yeah, it’s query. So, in fact, there’s stuff that we are able to use. We are able to borrow some obvious stability. It’s not dependable, nevertheless it nonetheless is perhaps momentarily extra stable-seeming, proper? So, actually typical issues are like, take a look at a rock. That’s a really conventional meditation. Right here’s a rock. I don’t know who introduced this, however there’s a rock right here. It’s fairly steady, and we are able to simply calm down and stare upon it. It’s fairly steady. If we actually get into the micro-phenomenology, you can begin to see the instability additionally. Nevertheless it’s pretty steady—particularly if our thoughts is whipping round, simply sitting with a rock and taking a look at it, we are able to borrow some stability to settle down a bit, proper? And from there, remembering presence could be fairly darn straightforward, proper? As a result of we might have calmed down sufficient to have presence be.
However finally, it turns into stunningly apparent that presence is all the time obtainable since you’re having an expertise. If there’s any expertise in any respect, you’re current. However at first which may not be apparent. So yeah, doing these sorts of meditation on objects are completely beneficial, and all the traditional ones—even your breath, proper? It appears to be, so long as you’re alive, the breath is there—although it’s transferring—it’s nonetheless acquired its personal form of stability. That’s how all that standard meditation with an object stuff works, so it doesn’t need to be laborious, simply one thing that’s seemingly dependable sufficient to get us again to again to our personal pure presence.
Q: Okay. Thanks. After which, yet one more query that only in the near past got here to thoughts. I assume with presence, there’s a method that I’ve observed that you simply conceptualize it, proper, as one thing that’s radiant, as one thing that’s reflective, as one thing that’s open.
MT: You can also make it into an idea and take a look at it, proper? So the reply is: don’t try this, proper? And in case you discover your self doing it, that’s all involvement with thought.
Q: However, apart from the apply of meditation, again to the query of stability. Do you discover this idea to supply stability to you? Stability or consolation, or are these emotions related to it contrived?
MT: Nicely, even contrived emotions will be snug. So, even that isn’t that dangerous of a factor. However I might simply say, with some apply, it’s not that onerous to note which you could come again to presence anytime, wherever, as a result of it’s not a meditation. It’s not like it’s essential to be targeted. It’s not like it’s essential to be in a particular state. It’s not a jhana. It’s not an absorption. It’s simply being current. Okay. So, that’s one thing that does take a little bit apply, proper? I’m not going to say, oh, only a few folks can simply try this. Nevertheless it’s not that onerous to study to only discover that stability. As a result of in case you’re awake and strolling round, you’re current. You simply need to do not forget that. In order that’s a form of mindfulness. And, you recognize the unique phrase for mindfulness, which is both sati or smriti, relying on what language you’re utilizing, does simply imply to recollect. So we simply bear in mind to be current, bear in mind to note proper? It’s simply that form of, “Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.” After which, after some time, that’s simply steady. Okay.
Q: Okay. Thanks very a lot.
MT: Does that make sense? Does that sound inconceivable? It’s actually not very laborious.
Q: Not inconceivable. Thanks.
MT: Different stuff arising?
Q: Form of a follow-up. Would you say that forgetting, pretending, and being deluded are distinct?
MT: Nicely, they’ve acquired three phrases there, and so they most likely really feel fairly totally different, and so forth, however with all three, you simply come again to being current, proper? So even when they do have the flavors of distinction. I might put these flavors—I form of classify these flavors as—there’s 10,000 issues to be distracted by. And in order that’s the complete panoply of existence. However the remembrance is what issues. Whether or not you’re deluded, simply bear in mind. Let’s say you’re distracted, simply bear in mind. Okay?
Q: Thanks. Yeah.
Q: Thanks a lot. Yeah.
MT: Thanks for making it out right here.
Q: My pleasure. There’s something about non-dualism that’s laborious for me to know.
MT: You’re undoubtedly the one one.
Q: As a result of whereas I’m meditating, or let’s take the sit, for instance, there appear to be two issues occurring which don’t align. One factor is like principally you point out, okay, discover what is occurring proper now, discover your thoughts is just like the sky. And there’s one half that feels okay now. You level out what to have a look at, or what to note, and now I’m right here and now I’m taking a look at it. However typically in non-dualism, we additionally discuss that there’s principally not this lighthouse place of wanting somewherem and you might be only a factor. Sure. So how are you going to bridge these two concepts?
MT: Yeah, it’s query. And so, time and again, my course was don’t take a look at it, be it. Don’t take a look at it, be it. However for many of us, there can be a very long time the place you might be simply taking a look at it—which is an efficient step. That’s the bridge. Okay, you’re taking a look at it. However the extra you try this, now simply calm down and be it. Okay? So, it’s taking a look at it because the in-between step. Should you can skip that step, that’s good. But when that’s the one you’ve acquired, then use that. Have a look at, okay, there’s the luminosity. I’m seeing it. Okay, now calm down, and cease imagining that I’m separate from the luminosity. Simply be the luminosity. That’s the way you bridge it. Okay? So, don’t take a look at it. Be it. Okay?
Q: Yeah.
MT: Does that make sense?
Q: Yeah. Yeah. That’s additionally a bit like, I really feel like what occurred within the expertise that in some way now this concept acquired dropped, however then I used to be considering, like how is that this then even working, since I got here right here by way of taking a look at it?
MT: Yeah. Nicely, we begin the place we’re at. We’ve acquired this hallucination going, however steadily the hallucination diminishes. It really works. Yeah.
Q: Thanks, Michael.
MT: Yeah, thanks for coming.
Q: As I apply, and I assume I lose religion on the planet and phenomena to ship lasting happiness, I’m noticing that I’m additionally dropping my ambition, and my drive in loads of ways in which it used to point out up for me. Which, in some methods, feels good, and looks like a extra trustworthy way of life. However I get nervous that it may well veer into irresponsibility, and I’m questioning what to do about that.
MT: Certain. Do not forget that typically Buddhism is known as the center method. Have you ever ever heard of that time period, the center method? What’s it the center method between? Are you aware? It’s very particularly the center method between two issues.
Q: Was it like aestheticism and hedonism?
MT: That’s what I discovered in seventh grade for certain. It’s the center method between aestheticism and indulgence. So sure, however that’s not the precise factor. The precise center method is the Madhyamaka, it’s the center method between eternalism and nihilism, proper? And so most of us begin out in some type of eternalism, after which as we study, we form of veer off into nihilism, after which finally right again into what’s between these two issues. A few of us begin out in nihilism after which have this bizarre waking up into eternalism—like what I’m turning into woo, ah—after which you recognize your pores and skin catches on hearth, after which you recognize finally you come again into this in-between place. It’s not eternalism, and it’s not nihilism.
So that you’re simply form of feeling the nihilistic burn there. And so don’t go too far in that course. That’s an actual early Buddhist method of speaking. Oh, the world can’t be unhappy. You don’t have to try this. There can nonetheless be pleasure. There can nonetheless be magnificence. There can nonetheless be marvel. All of that, proper? It may nonetheless be empty, and all that may nonetheless be there. Doesn’t imply it’s nothing. Okay? In any other case, all this might simply be nothingism. And also you would possibly as nicely simply be gone, by no means exist, proper? However that’s not what that is. Okay. So, simply discover, oh, I’m beginning to form of really feel the nothingism burn. And that’s an indication, okay, I’m veering a little bit too far off into nihilism. After which if it begins to be like, ”that is going to avoid wasting me,” it’s like, oh, went a little bit too far into eternalism. And we’re going to return again into this indefinable place in between these. Okay, does that make sense?
Q: Sure. Thanks.
MT: Yeah. Yeah. Any meditator goes forwards and backwards between these extremes rather a lot, and it’s essential to acknowledge them clearly. Oh, I’m getting vacancy poisoning or nihilism poisoning. Oh, getting a little bit too loopy with eternalism, proper? And we’re simply going to return again to this—as a result of each of these issues, eternalism—it’s all going to avoid wasting me, and nihilism—there’s nothing. These are ideas. They’re simply concepts. And what we’re doing will not be an idea. Okay? That’s the entire thing. It’s not an thought that you simply’re constructing. Okay? So, it’s attention-grabbing. That’s why you may’t actually say what it’s as a result of it’s not an creativeness. Does that make sense?
Q: It doesn’t make sense in the best way that, such as you’re saying, that there’s not—there’s nowhere to land logically, the place I’d be capable to steer in a single course or the opposite. However I see what you’re saying.
MT: And what we do have is these guard rails, proper? And so in case you go too far to the left, veer to the fitting. Should you go too far to the fitting, bear to the left, and then you definately begin—Okay, there’s a factor in there.
All proper, I promised you—we’re very late. We went on for a very long time with these questions. Thanks for the questions, y’all. However, I promised you some silent sitting right here on the finish. So, we’re going to do some silent sitting.
So that you get to do no matter you need throughout your silent meditation time. You’ll be able to, in actual fact, be planning your buying listing, or no matter. However what I might counsel is simply resting as pure presence there. There’s nothing to do. You already are that.
[silent meditation]
Okay.
Discover that whenever you’re achieved meditating, the presence doesn’t in some way evaporate, proper? It’s not a particular state that we make by way of meditation. It’s all the time there. So, anytime you need to discover it’s there, simply look. It’s there.
Thanks for popping out, and we’ll see you subsequent week. Okay, thanks everyone.
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